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if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you you one of the common man? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being comfortable enough in your own skin and comfortable with the topic that you can come up with a pious baloney moment. they aren't planned, aren't scripted, it just happens when it happens. >> but, professor schroeder, we've heard reports that the romney campaign has been preparing some so-called zingers that mitt romney's practiced and can use. i don't know why they would leak that kind of information, because it's like setting you up to fail if it doesn't work out. but how important are little lines like that, do you think? in the history of debates? >> i think they can be very important. i am
if you googled baloney two hours after the debate, you would get oscar meyer and then newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, when it comes to obama's populous messages, i'm one of the common guys and you're out of touch. romney has an opportunity to say you have made $2 million in one year, you spent more money in your time in the white house than the royal family. how are you you one of the common man? i think preparation is important, knowing the material is important. but then being...
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i interviewed newt gingrich. he said the way it were with president clinton, you would be in a room full of advisers, you fling them out, it's you and him, get it done, compromise, get it done. why is that not happening now and what advice do you give to barack obama to try to get into that kind of mind set with the republicans? >> well, that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true, but it's not the whole truth. we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a stickler for passing my budgets on time. but, in 2005, we didn't. and i had to veto what they did. and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they would do in the '94 elections. then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them. they don't want the government shut down or take a radical departure, just bring the deficit down. so after the two governments shut down in late '95 and early '96, then we began the compromise talks everyone talks about. there's been no forcing event so far. it's what the electi
i interviewed newt gingrich. he said the way it were with president clinton, you would be in a room full of advisers, you fling them out, it's you and him, get it done, compromise, get it done. why is that not happening now and what advice do you give to barack obama to try to get into that kind of mind set with the republicans? >> well, that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true, but it's not the whole truth. we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a stickler for passing...
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>> that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true but it's not the whole truth. that is, we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a real stickler for passing all my budgets on time, and -- but in 2005 we didn't, and i had to veto what they did, and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they'd do in the '94 elections, and then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them, they didn't want the government shut down, they just wanted to keep bringing the deficit down. so after the two government shutdowns in late '95 and early '96, then we began this compromise process everybody talks about. there has been no such action forcing event so far. that's what the election is. mark my words, if president obama wins this election, and i think he will, i really do believe he'll win, there will be a lame duck session of congress, they will avoid the fiscal cliff, they will either pass a multi-year budget then or agree to conditions to keep the government going while they work on the budget in the next couple of mont
>> that's -- what speaker gingrich said is true but it's not the whole truth. that is, we had one year when virtually nothing got done. i was a real stickler for passing all my budgets on time, and -- but in 2005 we didn't, and i had to veto what they did, and they had to do what they did because that's what they promised the voters they'd do in the '94 elections, and then the citizens decided they agreed with me more than them, they didn't want the government shut down, they just wanted...
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it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls into what the romney campaign considers to be its playbook at this point, keep it close, keep it tight, get through the debates, and look once again to the onomy as the determining factor in this election. >> you know, jim, we heard from kevin madden, the romney campaign adviser on getting romney ready for this debate tomorrow, here's what he said. >> just trying to get the governor familiar with the head to head one on one format has been a focus because in all the previous debates that we have had, it has been, you know, nine people on stage, trying to -- trying
it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls...
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patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of those kind of zingers are prethought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> well, that was all newt and part of the great thing about newt is that he knew the topic, you knew the weak points, but he was prepared to answer the question and then if you can come up with pious baloney, then that just puts a cherry on top. interestingly enough, if you googled baloney two hours after that debate you would get oscar mayer and newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, especially when it comes to obama's populoous message, i'm one of the common guys and you're out o
patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of...
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and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and weaknesses. the weakness he's concerned about and was in the primary ss that he tends to get defensive. he really needs to control that. i know from sources talking to mitt romney in these mock debates that's definitely one thing they've been practicing big time. >> that was certainly a key moment in the end of newt gingrich's efforts to become the republican presidential nominee. >> sure was. >> mitt romney really gave it to him at that point. we'll have much more on this coming up in our next hour. dana, thanks very much. >>> in our next hour we're g
and that really put gingrich in his place. and that's happened throughout the primary debates when pawlenty wouldn't repeat the romney care charge. if the account candidate is not willing to say something face-to-face as they do in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> the other thing he said which i think is true and i would bet you'd agree is that both mitt romney and president obama tend to have the same strengths and...
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mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would caution you a little bit. i think the president, when he has given kind of press interviews, that is a form of being pressed on things so maybe you're not debating another opponent one-on-one, but you are going through the process of answering questions and tough questions and people are not letting you squirm out of things. i think you do have to pull that down a little bit. i do believe that mitt romney has not demonstrated that he's agile. he's not kind of light on his feet. so the idea that if you had a tough spot in a debate, whether the moderator pushed or obama pushed and could romney not talking from
mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would...
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i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just the debate, but the first debate. do you agree? >> sure. i think the first debate is critical because this is their first chance -- our first chance to see the two gladiators in their arena alone, so how they -- who is the alpha dog in this debate? that's what we want to see. if you can't beat the other guy, how can you lead the country? >> you think mitt romney could lose it in this first debate, do you agree? >> i think that the debates are really tough for the incumbent. i think there's a big study done by the -- no, they show the challengers win the debates because it's the first time -- >> john mccain -- >> they had
i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just...
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he took it to newt gingrich, the best debater. >> let me finish my point. then you're welcome to -- for two years he's been trying to hone this message at a time when i think as a big surprise to a lot of people the president's doing better on the economy than he probably deserves to be doing. >> even in the polling. >> what makes you think in a high pressure environment, his first presidential debate he's actually going to deliver? >> it's the first time he's able to take the case right to the guy he's opposing. it's the first time -- and i believe president obama's style is to sort of look out to the audience and the questioner and us at home. i believe mitt romney needs to turn to president obama the way he did to newt gingrich in florida. mitt romney was on fire in that one debate. he really took it to newt. he was relentless. i was newt's senior adviser at the time. it was very unexpected. we know he's capable of it. >> if you're a romney supporter, you've got to believe this, right? because the race is slipping away from him. you got to believe he can
he took it to newt gingrich, the best debater. >> let me finish my point. then you're welcome to -- for two years he's been trying to hone this message at a time when i think as a big surprise to a lot of people the president's doing better on the economy than he probably deserves to be doing. >> even in the polling. >> what makes you think in a high pressure environment, his first presidential debate he's actually going to deliver? >> it's the first time he's able to...
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that line he was able to successfully deliver disarmed newt gingrich over the issue of taxes and releasing taxes and transparency. that's what governor romney is, i'm sure, working on tonight. and the president as well. finding a moment where they can crystallize the debate into one line and capture the imagination of the press and the audience. >> brett o'donnell, alleges nwa to talk to you. we'll talk on the other side of the debate. appreciate your time. >> you're going to be doing fact-checking at the debate. >> a rapid response fact check on both candidates what they say, we'll check it. if the campaign is any indication, it wille quite busy. >> i bet you will be. >> more than the stump speech stuff. we've heard so much about the economy in the stump speech. where there be real moments? if you're practicing, practicing, what are the real moments we'll get to see? >> you just had brett o'donnell, what's fascinating he was a key player in preparing mitt romney in a couple of debates where he did very, very well in the primary, maybe saved his candidacy -- >> south carolina was a disaste
that line he was able to successfully deliver disarmed newt gingrich over the issue of taxes and releasing taxes and transparency. that's what governor romney is, i'm sure, working on tonight. and the president as well. finding a moment where they can crystallize the debate into one line and capture the imagination of the press and the audience. >> brett o'donnell, alleges nwa to talk to you. we'll talk on the other side of the debate. appreciate your time. >> you're going to be...
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this is the guy who showed up at the two florida primary debates when on the ropes, when newt gingrich had him on the ropes after south carolina. he was focused. he was assertive. he was prepared. he was knowledgeable. he was on his a game and looked even better because the guy on the other side, president obama, wasn't there. he mailed it in. i think he thought you could do this by absentee ballot. and i think you can also say that you can see some of the burdens of incumbency that weighed heavily on president obama's shoulders last night. number one, no primary. he was rusty. number two, a record to defend. it's not that good a record. these things really weighed on barack obama. i would almost say to him call up hillary and have another grueling primary before the next debate. >> let me hear what anna tweeted, i feel for democtic spinners this morning. it's painful as blank to go in a spin room and know that your guy lost. been there. here's what a lot of people -- >> we're not pretending he won. >> you're not. >> i think it's clear on the mtsicmts atmospheres, on the debate that ro
this is the guy who showed up at the two florida primary debates when on the ropes, when newt gingrich had him on the ropes after south carolina. he was focused. he was assertive. he was prepared. he was knowledgeable. he was on his a game and looked even better because the guy on the other side, president obama, wasn't there. he mailed it in. i think he thought you could do this by absentee ballot. and i think you can also say that you can see some of the burdens of incumbency that weighed...
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i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political parties are very enthusiastic. this is about appealing to those undecided moderates and independents and nasty is not cool. >> let's talk about -- let's talk about appealing to latino voters. there's a new poll out today. back in 2008 mccain had 31% of latino vote. that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters n
i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political...
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>> because it took gingrich's argument and showed the absurdity in one line. >> cnn is told there is a ritual to romney's debate prep. after each session, his inner circle, beth myers, stewart stevens and ed gles pe, spend hours going over his answers with him so see how how can improve. >> you have to figure out how they're likely to expres themselves with the body language is going to be like. >> portman learned that in 2000. >> he got kind of physical. sort of stood up, al gore got right in his face and so in the debate preps with governor george w. bush in 2000, i did that. and governor bush's reaction was of course, he's not going to do that. that's ridiculous. >> but can he get things done? >> that's exactly what gore did. >> and i believe i can. >> did he practice a nod or did you just -- warn him he was going to physically approach him. >> i think the point is that governor bush was ready for it and that was not a high point for vice president gore. >> that's fascinating, that they knew gore was going to try to sort of physically approach him. >> that's right. as senator port
>> because it took gingrich's argument and showed the absurdity in one line. >> cnn is told there is a ritual to romney's debate prep. after each session, his inner circle, beth myers, stewart stevens and ed gles pe, spend hours going over his answers with him so see how how can improve. >> you have to figure out how they're likely to expres themselves with the body language is going to be like. >> portman learned that in 2000. >> he got kind of physical. sort of...
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and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not speaking. if they're saying ugly things about you, yoube smiling. it is an awkward smirk. >> you have the president, here is an example, we have an example of him raising his hands, pointing his finger, while his opponent answered a question, wait for it, and you'll see, the president do this, good or bad move? >> i don't think it is a particularly good move. i've always been told to kind of, you know, keep that finger down. you don't know what's going to happen once you start pointing to somebody. it could go off. i think you keep the finger pointing away. >> bottom line, who wins? >> i think it will
and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not...